long that it's very hard to imagine an electoral future. >> it's worse than that. you guys, carl rove and your buddies. remember carl rove? eight years ago, you went up to ohio and up to cleveland and you basically went to the black ministers and who was that guy? the boxing promoter. you guys went out and you rallied all of them. we've got to fight that gay marriage thing and you used that to destroy john kerry. >> in '04, that was an exploding cigar. and we're paying the price for that. there were -- >> did you fight? >> thank you for your service. we paid for it in the '08 cycle when we weren't running on it. we certainly weren't running on it in 2012. we have been paying for it in spades since '04. the platform document was an anchor around the neck. >> okay. this country has never gone through a faster transition in thinking. and i'm part of it. all right? the public attitudes shifted dramatically in just a short period of time. i think you're going to be astounded by this. in 1996, not a million years ago, only 27% of the country supported same-sex marriage. just about a quarter

that -- rove and bush understood that constituency was critical for them. he said our ideas carried the day. they didn't carry election night. >> i think voters are very aware what the issues were and what side both sides took. speaking last night at a gala, senator-elect ted cruz, a real hero of the tea party from texas, gave a postmortem on the election. he said, do you want to know why barack obama won 70% of the vote? tone on immigration contributed, but i think far more important was 47%. republicans nationally, the story they conveyed was that the 47% are stuck in a static world, we don't have to worry about you. >> i think part of it is we did let the other side define us -- >> was it the thinking about looking down on people or was it the words? >> i think what happened was early on the obama people did a good job with the perception mitt romney was george bailey, he was mr. potter. and then we said narratives that -- >> lionel barrymore. >> we can't do that as a party. as a party we have to let everybody know we're fighting for them, understand their lives, and, frankly, we failed

. i'm sorry to interrupt. it's worse than that. >> all right. >> you guys, karl rove and your buddies, remember karl rove. eight years ago you went up to ohio and cleveland in the black areas and basically went to the black ministers up there, karl rove and who was that guy, the boxing promoter, and you guys -- don king, and you rallied all them, we have to fight this gay marriage thing and you used that to destroy john kerry in ohio and cost him the electoral college. >> that was an exploding cigar and we're paying -- >> where were you then? did you fight -- >> i was fighting in iraq. i was deployed in iraq so i was -- >> touche you win. thank you for your service. thank you for your service. it's a very good alibi. >> but we paid for it in the '08 cycle when we weren't running on it. we certainly weren't running on it in 2012. we have been trying to run away from this issue and we have been paying for it in spades since '04. as you said earlier, the platform document -- >> this country has never gone through a faster transition in thinking and i'm part of it, all right. everybody is

unpopular and rich ceo. >> any word from karl rove. >> despite what he's been telling you, it's over. romney lost. >> damn it. i guess it's time i explained to these good people the upcoming fiscal cliff. think of the economy as a car and the rich man is the driver. if you don't give the driver money, he'll drive you over a cliff. it's just common sense. furthermore, rich people feel things more deeply than the common man. >> well, the rich are hardly the only ones to suffer from a fiscal cliff. did you see the book? nate silver "can't add" and some binders full of women. >>> alan simpson has joined forces with can kicks back, trying to get young people to recruit their friends and use social media to encourage congress to come to a deficit reduction deal. there's alan simpson doing his part with a homage to internet sensation gangnam style. >> stop instagraming your breakfast and tweeting your first world problems and getting on youtube so you can get gangnam style. ♪ gangnam style >> and start using those social media skills to go out and sign people up on this baby, take part or get tak

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